Comments on: Goodbye Moyo Go Studio, Good Luck Frank!

By: Frankophile

Frankophile — Mon, 02 Mar 2009 16:51:56 +0000

Frank really likes to yell and shout and threaten people on the Internet. Whatever the problem with Sensei, you could count on Frank to blow it out of proportion. From what other people have described, he’s probably also made private death threats to various people involved.

By: Sec

Sec — Mon, 08 Oct 2007 15:17:59 +0000

Seeing that he himself apparently distributed it over torrent and emule, i assumed it wouldn’t be a problem. It looks like I misjudged. Ah well, thanks anyway.

By: Alejo

Alejo — Mon, 08 Oct 2007 11:25:32 +0000

I’m sorry, but according to MGS license, it’s not legal to distribute it.

You can read more about this topic on the middle posts of “moyo RAM requirements” on GoDiscussions… But, in the end, what really matters is this sentence on MGS license:
“You may not provide access to the software to others, without procuring specific rights to do so from Frank de Groot.”

Some people say it’s available on P2P networks, but I don’t know where exactly as I haven’t done a proper research.

By: Sec

Sec — Mon, 08 Oct 2007 00:43:05 +0000

Hi, I somehow missed the announcement that there was a free MoyoGo version, and now that the Author pulled it from his website, I wonder if there is still a place where I could get it?

By: Alejo

Alejo — Wed, 03 Oct 2007 18:28:57 +0000

Um… I hadn’t checked the E-Journal Copyright… my fault there… Well then, I’ll think about adding it here.

However, the original purpose of this post is not to say something in favor/against someone, it’s just to state a fact that I got aware of: internet Go isn’t as nice as it seems and one of its multiple consequences (losing a good programmer).

By: phantom

phantom — Wed, 03 Oct 2007 11:44:16 +0000

If the review you referred to is the one from the E-Journal, you can post it hear without worrying about copyright infringement. A note at the end of each copy of the E-Journal gives permission to reproduce text material so long as proper credit is given. The only reason I can think of not to post it is that Frank considered it to libel and seemed to take offence to seeing it anywhere. Personally, I see no merit in posting the article continuing the debate. But, anyone who wishes to read the article can find it in the E-Journal archives on the AGA site.

By: Alejo

Alejo — Tue, 02 Oct 2007 21:05:16 +0000

Umm… I didn’t know about Frank’s threats… In fact, I don’t really know much about the whole story, I just tried to expose the final result, which is quite disappointing.

Though I guess Frank had his reasons for doing such, we won’t ever know who threw the first stone, so I think that there are more than one person to blame for this: Frank on one side, “the rest” on the other (I still don’t know who to include here).

By: Mef

Mef — Tue, 02 Oct 2007 20:34:44 +0000

While I can’t say that I personally tried MoyoGo that much (I checked the free version out briefly), I’ve heard several others speak well of it. At the very least it was nice to have another competitor keeping people like SmartGo on their toes.

Just a point of clarification – Sensei’s Library removed the references to MoyoGo after Frank threatened legal action over them. I’m pretty sure a history of that can be found either on SL itself or RGG.